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Aves Asio
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Posted - 2017.02.19 23:39:38 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:The current tier system is fine. There is a common misconception that tier 1 is too punitive as its half that of tier 2.
Fact is that its very likely that your LP will become worth twice that of the opposing faction. This might take a little time since hte market has to adjust to supply but if you ignore the market in your appraisal of how the tier system works then you really do not understand what you are talking about.
In practical terms, tier 1 is not -50% of tier 2. And tier 4 is not +150% of tier 2.
This is compounded by those that put time in to getting the best rates for their items with sell orders etc.
Im not opposed to a change, but many people see problems with the tier system that just done exist.
But if we remove the farmers from the equation then the whole system falls apart. |
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Posted - 2017.02.22 11:04:41 -
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Farmers have too much power in the current system. I understand that we cant get rid of them but we should at least try to limit their influence |
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Posted - 2017.02.22 21:46:37 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:
And i didnt say rabbit plexing is 'not a big deal'. I said its actually a beneficial artifact of the tier system. Some may only see the times when it keeps the winning side on top, but those people are ignoring the other times when the farmers swing the pendulum. This gives all sides a 'tide' to sail upon rather than a 'hill to climb' against a richer, more cohesive force.
The pendulum swings when the farmers switch sides, by that time the hill has been climbed. The oplexers have done their jobs they broke the opposition, conquered enough sistems to support t3 and they have also donated to push for t3, thats when farmers make the swich. Not before because its not worth it for them, so if anything its the farmers that sail the tide. |
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Posted - 2017.02.26 09:54:30 -
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Bienator for CSM |
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Posted - 2017.03.06 14:29:36 -
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ALUCARD 1208 wrote:Then you maybe looking at the wrong warzone while amarr / minmatar maybe in constant flux of tier 4-5 and what not that is down to it being a pure farm zone.
The Gallente / caldari warzone is nothing like that snd most timnes only ever reaches t3 for oneside and maybe t1-2 dipping for the losing side but constantly fought over. Yes they have some farmers im not saying they dont but they dont effect the day to day stuff even a quarter as much as the opposite warzone
Also most LP comes from missions any farmer worth thier salt wouldnt be in plex, the problem is nothing like it was maybe 2 to 3 years ago you seem to have old information
Your last comments showed exactly how out of touch you are with the demographic and have only listened to what your goon friends have told you who have farm alts in minnie / amarr
so everything is ok, gal-cal is healthy and nobody gives a **** about amar-min peasants... |
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Posted - 2017.03.06 15:02:52 -
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X Gallentius wrote:... At some point it becomes more profitable for alts to be on the "losing" side. And then the pendulum swings.
Farmers have the power to swing the pendulum and to keep it in the air for a long time. This is an issue. Ofc you cant stop the farmers but we should limit their impact on the rest of us. |
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Posted - 2017.03.07 13:32:30 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:The reason making isk and making progress in occupancy has to have a significant pve element is that a purely PvP mechanic would be open to any and all manor of abuse ...
This is eve, everything will be abused for personal gain.
The reason making isk and making progress in occupancy has to have a significant pve element is because the devs arent competent enough to create a better system. Lets not make that stop us from demanding balance and improvements. |
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Posted - 2017.03.08 11:38:37 -
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X Gallentius wrote:You can't have a pvp element if one side decides to not show up. Then what?
You are assuming something that i have never suggested.
I dont have the answers, my theorycrafting skill is too low to solve all the problems in fw. I can only point out the broken parts and ask for improvements, just like you.
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